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Papa Bear Mav
"Witness"
Italy
990 Posts |
 Posted - 03/15/2008 : 8:26:21 PM
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We controlled our own destiny at the end of the regular season (once again) to finish 5th or 6th and avoid being at Yost for this round. Didn't get it done, here we go.
The good news is we are playing MUCH better thru 2 periods - let's get them in the 3rd!! |
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dupont_fan
New Recruit
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 9:05:32 PM
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Very proud of the team - they played with alot of heart tonight and apparently showed up awake and ready to play tonight.....even though they lost, I can leave the season proud to say I'm a Maverick Hockey Fan.
That fight was amazing......why were Scero and Koehler's dads kicked out?? I kind of missed that whole thing!!
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav
Christmas Island
3863 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 9:21:07 PM
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As Terry Leahy explained it, there was a Weasel rush on Kaufmann, with a Weasel getting a shove in on Kaufmann. UNO shoved the Weasel back, and then all heck broke loose. Several Weasels lost their composure and dropped their gloves, and the fight was on.
As things were starting to get settled down on the ice, a young Weasel in the stands decided to head over to the UNO parents section. Words were exchanged between the Young Weasel and Mr. Scero, and apparantly Weasel Security got called in. Mr. Koehler apparently tried to explain the situation and calm things down, but ended up getting tossed with the elder Scero.
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com |
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dupont_fan
New Recruit
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 9:25:12 PM
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| That's crazy to me that a weasel fan starts the argument and our boys' parents are the ones that get thrown out - wouldn't happen at Qwest - good midwestern values! |
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav
Christmas Island
3863 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 9:39:51 PM
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Or maybe because we have 30 students showing up versus about 3,000 Weasel students. And the students have to run several sections to get where the parents are probably sitting behind the bench.
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com |
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dupont_fan
New Recruit
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 9:55:10 PM
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That could be true too - I think UNO needs a better marketing department because I think it's a shame that we don't have a better turn out for these games.
Every once in awhile you see a billboard here and there, but that's it. The student body definately needs to get behind them and I think that the crowd in general needs to participate a little more.
We always sit behind the players bench - hopefully we'll be able to get season tickets there next year - first year buying them! |
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MichiganMan
New Recruit
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Posted - 03/15/2008 : 10:39:20 PM
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| Just in response to the stuff about why the two parents got tossed. I was at the game and am a Michigan fan. First, no idea who started the fight was at the other end of the ice. The drunk fan was actually not in the student section they are on the other side of the ice but had just bought a public ticket. He was an ass and waved his flag in front of the parents. The reason those parents got tossed was when the usher called the kid over to remove him the parent got mad and threw/shoved the kid into an Usher in front of the cops. I admit the kid was being an ass but you don't get to start throwing people into 60 year old men because of that. |
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav
1338 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 10:43:12 PM
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| He should have simply knocked him out.. |
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MichiganMan
New Recruit
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Posted - 03/15/2008 : 10:47:23 PM
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| would have been ok with that. like I said kid was an ass just took it too far when he threw him into the Usher who was actually trying to do his job. |
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav
1338 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 10:55:27 PM
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Originally posted by MichiganMan
would have been ok with that. like I said kid was an ass just took it too far when he threw him into the Usher who was actually trying to do his job.
Yea, I feel bad for the usher. Thanks for the information. It will be interesting to hear exactly what set off the parents. I'm sure the kid had it coming to him. |
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admin
U!N!O!
8276 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 11:25:33 PM
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I don't want to make a big deal about this...
...but it is retarded for fans to "taunt" parents of players on the opposing team.
And the Michigan event staff should have booted the ding-dong in the maize jersey. They should have taken care of it immediately -- they shouldn't have let him stand there and taunt the parents (which I watched him do).
Seriously, ushers should know when to boot "window lickers" from the arena. |
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Posted - 03/15/2008 : 11:37:25 PM
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Originally posted by MichiganMan
Just in response to the stuff about why the two parents got tossed. I was at the game and am a Michigan fan. First, no idea who started the fight was at the other end of the ice. The drunk fan was actually not in the student section they are on the other side of the ice but had just bought a public ticket. He was an ass and waved his flag in front of the parents. The reason those parents got tossed was when the usher called the kid over to remove him the parent got mad and threw/shoved the kid into an Usher in front of the cops. I admit the kid was being an ass but you don't get to start throwing people into 60 year old men because of that.
This kid was in the student section and he returned to the student section after the usher let him go. |
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AJMav
Minister of Anger
Iran
4211 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 11:38:16 PM
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I hate to point out the obvious...but are any of you suprised by this?
I've been preaching this for years. It shouldn't shock anyone. I don't just make stuff up.
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admin
U!N!O!
8276 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 11:47:28 PM
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MavBridget posting under the Admin's name.
(Response to "MichiganMan" who used the little-kid excuse of "he started it")
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Just in response to the stuff about why the two parents got tossed. I was at the game and am a Michigan fan. First, no idea who started the fight was at the other end of the ice. The drunk fan was actually not in the student section they are on the other side of the ice but had just bought a public ticket. He was an ass and waved his flag in front of the parents. The reason those parents got tossed was when the usher called the kid over to remove him the parent got mad and threw/shoved the kid into an Usher in front of the cops. I admit the kid was being an ass but you don't get to start throwing people into 60 year old men because of that.
And Mr. Scero didn't touch the kid until the kid pushed him. Mr. Scero said, "Don't do that again." The kid pushed him again. That's when Mr. Scero pushed him towards the usher and said, "Get him out of here."
Again -- it would have been solved if the usher would have removed the fan in the first place. (He obviously didn't have a ticket for that section -- he just came over to taunt the parents.)
Mr. Scero ended up sitting with us up in Section 11. A member of the building staff came up and apologized to him up there.
The students were also dumping things on the players on the bench. Aarnio had something dumped on his head -- and again, nothing was done by the ushers in that section.
I have no problems with the students being loud and rowdy -- I do have a problem when they are allowed to physically harass our players and their parents.
We've encountered some rude fans elsewhere (Notre Dame, Michigan State, Ohio State, etc.) but the ushers were usually pretty quick to intervene. That was the difference.
I said it before tonight, and I reconfirmed it tonight -- I will not lead a bus trip to Michigan. And that's too bad, because this part of the state could use the economic impact from guests staying in hotel rooms and eating at their restaurants.
I didn't personally experience any harassment from Michigan fan, but I'm also not going to subject 40-80 of my fellow fans to that either.
(And AJ, we believed you ... we just didn't see it last night. Tonight we did.) |
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MaizeNBrew
Junior Mav
Denmark
700 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2008 : 11:53:21 PM
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As a former "member" of the student section, I apoligize to the parents involved. Back in the 90s, Yost was a truly energetic, initimidating, yet imaginative environment to be a part of. The cheers were there without the profanity. The opposing fans felt the heat of the environment, yet at the same time I believe respected it just the same. You could still get season tickets without a waiting list, and the students that bought tickets were there to see hockey, not just be part of the rowdy-ness. The pinnacle of this was probably in 98 when UM beat NoDak in the the NCAA regionals. Since that time, however, the student section has been filled by less and less fans that actually are there for the hockey and are instead there for the taunts. The cheers are more vulgar and also less creative -- and more focused on opposing fans than opposing teams. It was my understanding that it actually has improved the last 2 years or so, but apparantly not tonight. I hope for those of you that did go were able to appreciate the things that would be in common with what we want a UNO environment to be: The enegery, the closeness to the ice and teams, etc. Hopefully the other stuff can be seperated. I'm glad the parents weren't ejected, I'm sorry that the student was not.
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MichiganMan
New Recruit
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Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:11:16 AM
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| Excuse me considering I said the kid should have gotten tossed and agree that he in fact should have gotten punched more or less I hardly said "he started it" I merely said that the parent (I am not sure of his name so will not say it) pushed the kid into an usher. The usher is not a target and it wasn't a shove and he went into him he pushed him several feet into him. The kid to deserve to go. I hope he got thrown out. The parent goes to in my opinion honestly because he made a choice to react the way he did and that makes you just as liable. |
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admin
U!N!O!
8276 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:13:17 AM
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| Whatever. |
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MichiganMan
New Recruit
5 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:15:00 AM
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| Oh and on a completely unrelated (hockey) note please consider your economic arguments before you make it. Ann Arbor is actually a very successful Economy, the only one in the state. My guess is you stayed within 20 miles of the Yost Ice Arena so unless you are hoofing it from Detroit then your stimulus idea of your coming to the stadium is not actually true. |
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Section 14
E.M.F.H
1875 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:18:50 AM
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I didn't have any problems and I was wearing the red UNO jersey both nights, so I would have been an easy target. The Scero incident was unfortunate. It is also unfortunate that Yost and Michigan fans are being judged because of a few idiots. We have idiot fans in Omaha too. Anyone remember the Notre Dame incident at the Civic about five years ago?
Their fans aren't the nicest in college hockey, but they aren't as bad as they are made out to be.
I loved their student section. They make UNO's student section and other fan sections look like amateurs. Their chants are in unison, their band is awesome and the band and the students play off of each other. I was impressed.
I will be back for the Michigan series next year. |
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Streaker
Freshman Mav
USA
160 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:23:44 AM
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I attended both games... game one, Michigan just came out flying and had every bounce you can get. Just one of those games. Didn't sense any acts of intimidation etc. towards Mav fans that you wouldn't get anywhere else.
Game two, UNO came to play, desperate and tenacious. Michigan seemed to not have the same jump and I think were frustrated with the officiating. I think Mav fans can feel good about the effort, although the team came up short.
The scrum began with a legit call on Michigan for goalie interference, but after a few unwarranted shots after the whistle, both teams had dq's for fighting.
I think the moron that caused the issue in the stands was identified and handled. I saw no other issues in the arena. As a matter of fact, I saw more respect than the opposite. Aside from the student section chiding, most cases parents are treated very well.
Rick and AJ know me as we have met before and I would think that I represent well. Every fanbase has their 10% and certainly won't deny it. I won't apologize for U-M's success, and I personally don't have any issues with fans cheering their team. Perspective is probably the best word Rick used. Your fanbase talks about the distain for all things Michigan and that is fine. Goes with the territory. I prefer to enjoy my team than obsess with the evils of another. I take exception with AJ in that, there are many of us that still accept defeat graciously. I don't know a fanbase that doesn't have knuckleheads in that situation. I think your real issue is that you want a rivalry... and your program can't deliver.
Safe travels to those who made it over. I'll be in sec 9 next season if you care to come back, which I believe UNO is in line to do for 2008-09. If I happen to meet any of you I will extend the courtesy you deserve as a guest. |
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Section 14
E.M.F.H
1875 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:23:49 AM
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Originally posted by MichiganMan
Oh and on a completely unrelated (hockey) note please consider your economic arguments before you make it. Ann Arbor is actually a very successful Economy, the only one in the state. My guess is you stayed within 20 miles of the Yost Ice Arena so unless you are hoofing it from Detroit then your stimulus idea of your coming to the stadium is not actually true.
I am actually originally from the Detroit area and agree that Ann Arbor is doing quite well. We actually stayed in Livonia and 9 of us went to the Joe today, spent money, ate, etc.
However, a bus with 40 people isn't going to solve the problems in SE Michigan, it wouldn't even make a dent.
Like I said, I will be back for the series next year. I would love to see Michigan make the Frozen Four. It is good for the CCHA. |
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MichiganMan
New Recruit
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Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:28:18 AM
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| We would love to have you. I'm glad you appreciate the student section. As a grad student who went to an undergrad school with almost no team spirit I love it. I will say that the taunts against the parents are harsh but the best is when they give it right back. Honestly tonight I loved when you guys (parent section) scored and you started chanting Sieve at Billy (goalie, obv) that's the stuff that makes the games great. Please come back and have a good time. |
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Its Maverick Hockey Time
Sophomore Mav
USA
370 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 01:21:17 AM
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Only at Michigan could a fan come over and taunt the parents right in front of their face and be able to go right back to his seat while the parents get tossed from the game.
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Michigan seemed to not have the same jump and I think were frustrated with the officiating.
Could it possibly be that Matt Shegos has enough respect and experience that he doesn't have to kiss Red's A** to get the prime assignments.
Just once I want UNO to overachieve in a year and surprise everyone. UM was picked to finish fourth and they found a way to finish first. The wait till next year attitude is getting old, at some point it has to be the year.
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ellisfan
Your Name Here!
Djibouti
3734 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 02:28:12 AM
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Originally posted by dupont_fan
That's crazy to me that a weasel fan starts the argument and our boys' parents are the ones that get thrown out - wouldn't happen at Qwest - good midwestern values!
Clearly you have not been to very many games at the Qwest... |
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AJMav
Minister of Anger
Iran
4211 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:15:23 AM
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Streaker, you have already earned your lifetime exemption as a non-target of this discussion. That has not been forgotten.
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admin
U!N!O!
8276 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:29:56 AM
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{MavBridget posting under Admin's name again):
I agree that 40 people isn't going to make a dent in the SE Michigan economy -- but I bet any of the hotels in Ann Arbor would love the business ... especially outside of football season.
Like I said -- I personally didn't have any problems with the people at Yost, and I thought it was a good atmosphere. My problem was with the event staff and how they handled situations.
From what I understand from Mr. Scero, they did *not* identify the Michigan fan who started the incident, so he was *not* dealt with properly. Instead, they asked Mr. Scero not to return to the parents section (so he came and sat by us). Again: The proper response of the (apparently elderly usher, from MichiganMan's account) would have been to ask the student to return to his seat. Instead, he ignored the situation, which then escalated.
We've dealt with jacka$$ fans on the road before, but a competent event staff helps prevent the initial incident from getting worse. THAT is the reason I would never bring in a bus trip ... although I might make the trip myself again in the future. |
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dupont_fan
New Recruit
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:45:10 AM
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Originally posted by ellisfan
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Originally posted by dupont_fan
That's crazy to me that a weasel fan starts the argument and our boys' parents are the ones that get thrown out - wouldn't happen at Qwest - good midwestern values!
Clearly you have not been to very many games at the Qwest...
Actually, I have been to almost every game for the last 2 years, but apparently where I am sitting there never seems to be any issues.........there is alot of yelling at officials, but that's about it! |
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AJMav
Minister of Anger
Iran
4211 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:47:08 AM
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Bridget, thanks for the housecleaning this morning. I didn't really need to read that guy's B.S. today.
Safe travels home.
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UNOMav
Aiming for #1
British Indian Ocean Territories
954 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 08:19:18 AM
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Originally posted by OldBrew
I don't disagree about the lack of collegiate experience, however these players have been playing, probably at USHL or equivalent and should be expected to have gained some level of experience.
As information, Michigan has three freshmen, three sophomores and one junior in their defensive core. They also have zero senior defense men.
The difference is that Michigan's young players are simply better. Michigan recruits the cream of the crop. Michigan has the ability to recruit dominant offensive players that control the puck which takes pressure off the young defense. Kolarik and Porter are a couple of the best forwards in the country. I wouldn't think any DI coach wants a young defense like that, but if they do...they want an offense that can control the puck for long periods of time...it is pretty hard for the opposing team to score if they don't control the puck.
The interesting thing would be if/when Michigan runs up against a team with a power offense that can neutralize their offensive power and also test Michigan's young defense...obviously there aren't many teams in college hockey with that ability.
Still aiming for #1. |
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bennyc
Freshman Mav
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 09:46:34 AM
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Great thread, really... perspective does matter, very much so... but go to the video and judge for yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
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