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jonesy498
Junior Mav

USA
541 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  2:51:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
perhaps we could us the stadium and the tigers to get rid of the anti-progress people in the state.

"I love the smell of commerce in the morning"
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Hockeyqueen
All Creatures Great and Small

USA
740 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  8:26:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just because someone isn't for the new stadium does not mean they are "anti-progress." Progress for a city can be measured in many ways. Some of us think progress should be measured in less violence, safer schools, streets and potholes being repaired, feeding the hungry, shelters for the homeless and mentally ill and affordable taxes. To constantly berate those who are against building a new stadium-without knowing their reasons-is totally unfair. It lumps together those with legitimate concerns for our city with those who are naysayers for their own personal gain.

In my opinion, our mayor has been so intent on the pursuit of his personal dream of a new stadium, he has neglected almost every other aspect of improvement in Omaha during his tenure. To me, that is a sad fact that cannot be ignored when the next election comes around.
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WoohooHcky
Junior Mav

577 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  9:36:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352939,00.html

See, this is why I am against forcing animals to do tricks......THEY DIE!!!

I love you Omaha Zoo, thanks for keeping our animals alive by not forcing them to do things they don't do normally!

(Dripping with sarcasm.........in some aspects)
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2008 :  10:52:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hockeyqueen

To constantly berate those who are against building a new stadium-without knowing their reasons-is totally unfair. It lumps together those with legitimate concerns for our city with those who are naysayers for their own personal gain.

Well...we're listening. This thread has gone on for 31 pages, and nearly every reason to not build the stadium that the city has been pretty much disproven.

quote:
Originally posted by Hockeyqueen

In my opinion, our mayor has been so intent on the pursuit of his personal dream of a new stadium, he has neglected almost every other aspect of improvement in Omaha during his tenure. To me, that is a sad fact that cannot be ignored when the next election comes around.

Putting aside the notion that your opinions suddenly become facts, how do you explain the fact that Fahey has been mayor for nearly 7 years, and this debate has been going on for just over a year?

While you're at it, please explain the charge that he is "so intent on the pursuit of his personal dream of a new stadium." Here's a World-Herald story from 2005:
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Jennifer Mahlendorf, Fahey's deputy chief of staff, said last week that Fahey and the Royals have a good relationship. Nevertheless, she reiterated that the city has no money at this time to contribute to building a new stadium because of the city's current debt. If a good project in the city's best interests were presented, it wouldn't automatically be ruled out, she said.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=1451152
Some dream.

What changed in 2007? Simple. The NCAA recommended a new stadium.
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On Feb. 23, city officials and Diesing made a formal Rosenblatt proposal to Dennis Poppe, the NCAA's managing director for football and baseball, in Fahey's office. The presentation was complete with flip charts and spread sheets, and Fahey and Diesing believed that it went well.

Then came the NCAA's response on March 12. The NCAA had a totally different concept:

"Build a new state-of-the-art facility to host the Men's College World Series in a location near downtown Omaha," the NCAA wrote in a memo to CWS Inc. "Not doing so amounts to putting an expensive band-aid over what ails aging Rosenblatt Stadium."

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10156330

If you've got something different, let's hear it. But the proof is out there. The Mayor simply responded to the requests of the NCAA in an effort to keep the College World Series.

Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
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MavRick
A Better Fan Than You

USA
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Posted - 04/29/2008 :  11:51:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hockeyqueen

J he (Fahey) has neglected almost every other aspect of improvement in Omaha during his tenure. To me, that is a sad fact that cannot be ignored when the next election comes around.



This is transparently absurd. His backing of Omaha By Design alone, now a part of the city's master plan and zoning ordinance - a major assault on schlock development by a guy who owns a title company and was elected by developers - refutes this airball of an assertion.

I voted against him the first time. But he reigned in the city's budget after the excesses of the lunatic visionary Hal Daub and actually got potholes filled. His takedown of waste and delay in city road contracting was fantastic. Oh, and property taxes haven't gone up in five years. Plus, he fought off a hugely antidemocratic land grab by the people of Elkhorn, which would have resulted in 8200 people and a few cows dictating land use policy to 400,000. I'm not saying he's flawless. I'm saying he's done a hell of a job.

And, it would appear, he's keeping a $40 million event in Omaha for the next generation.



"This guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face." Strong Bad, "Dragon"
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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  08:12:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Outisde of his communication and management style, the only real bad thing that I put on him is the current police and fire contracts. That was a bad deal and something only a desperate man would do. Fahey should not have been desperate at that time, it showed a weakness that the unions exploited for their own gains.
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jonesy498
Junior Mav

USA
541 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  08:25:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My use of the term anti-progress was not solely intended for those who are against the stadium, I meant it to include all of those people who are trying to keep Nebraska in the past. Had these people voted for casinos this debate would not even be taking place, the casinos would have been more than happy to pay for a new stadium. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iowa casinos didn't chip in some money for the new stadium because they reap a large benefit from the cws.

"I love the smell of commerce in the morning"
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NoClu
Senior Mav

Equatorial Guinea
1723 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  08:58:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The city council showed no guts when it came to the Fire and Police contracts either. (Though Welsh did try to get some concensus on the topic).

"You can't spell War without W!
Serving it up for 5 + years!"

Steve Coppard
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  11:57:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's now official...

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The NCAA and College World Series of Omaha Inc. have reached an agreement to keep the CWS in Omaha for at least 20 years.

City officials announced the deal this morning, which includes a new $140 million stadium on two parking lots northeast of the Qwest Center Omaha.

The deal won't be finalized until the NCAA's top official signs off on it, which is expected in several days.


http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10323440

I still hoped it would be more than 20 years. Not sure what "at least" means...but since it's just released, maybe we'll find out more as the day goes on.

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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  12:59:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First details look very promising...
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The formal memorandum of understanding is between the NCAA, which own the series, and College World Series of Omaha Inc., the local sponsoring organization. The city and the Metropolitan Entertainment and Convention Authority, which will operate the new stadium, played key roles in the negotiations.

The most important issue for the city was to protect taxpayers, Fahey said.

As part of the deal, revenues generated by the new stadium first would be used to make annual payments on the construction debt. Then, stadium and CWS operating expenses would be paid, followed by payments to a capital improvement fund for future repairs to the stadium. Finally, any leftover funds would be shared with the NCAA.

"The debt has to be paid first," Fahey said of the agreement. "Nobody takes money out until the debt payments are made."

The city expects to pay off the debt over the 20 years with about $60 million in increased hotel taxes and rental car fees, plus keno revenues, $43 million in private funds and $37 million from stadium receipts.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10323440

The stadium debt gets paid FIRST from any revenues at the stadium, not to mention future improvements getting paid before the NCAA gets a shot at the revenues. Very nice.

Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  1:22:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My guess is Mutual of Omaha Stadium or the DiGiorno Downtown Diamond,
where you can sit under the AT&T Awning, try to catch a homer on the Pontiac Porch, sit in the Lowe's Lower Level, or purchase a State Farm Skybox.
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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2008 :  2:32:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't wait to watch the Save Rosenblatt people chain themselves to the front gates when the bulldozers arrive.

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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  3:23:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Omaha mayor's newest desire: streetcar
BY C. DAVID KOTOK
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

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Fresh from reaching an agreement with the NCAA to play the College World Series at a new downtown stadium, Mayor Mike Fahey is turning his attention to what's next.

Out of his drawer, Fahey pulled plans for a $55 million streetcar loop that would join the Old Market and Creighton University to north downtown. That loop would go by the front entrance of the new stadium on Webster Street.

"It's incumbent on any mayor to continually think about the next move," Fahey said today. "We want the momentum to continue."

Fahey has been talking about a streetcar system for several years and received a privately funded proposal in the fall of 2006. But the streetcar plan sat on the back burner as Fahey fired up the effort to land a long-term agreement to keep the CWS in Omaha.

That 18-month effort is now close to completion with the NCAA agreeing Wednesday to keep the CWS in Omaha for at least 20 years after the current contract expires at the end of the 2010 championship.

"It seems to make sense economically," Fahey said of the streetcar system. "If you look around the country at progressive cities, better mass transportation systems are part of the equation."

The city may need to move quickly, perhaps this summer, to come up with a financing plan to fund the cost of a streetcar, Fahey said.

Fahey must decide whether to create a special taxing district to use tax-increment financing, or TIF, for the streetcar project. Using that approach, the property tax revenue generated by new development within three blocks of the streetcar would help pay for construction of the system.

There is some urgency to create such a district because the city wants to have the TIF in place before vacant land and deteriorating buildings in the so-called NoDo area are developed into housing, shops and restaurants, Fahey said.

The streetcar line would be built into a traffic lane of streets along the route. Vehicles could continue to use the lane.

The downtown streetcar loop was proposed as the first phase of a more extensive system that could connect downtown with the new Midtown Crossing residential and commercial development and the University of Nebraska Medical Center. Another branch could run south from downtown to the Henry Doorly Zoo.

Mutual of Omaha, the developer of Midtown Crossing, has talked with the city about opening the western branch sooner rather than later, Fahey said.

While the stadium and streetcar are separate projects, they complement each other, said Fahey and Doug Bisson, a community planner with Omaha-based HDR.

"One project by itself is cool," Bisson said, "but the two together are really amazing."

Bisson, who suggested a downtown ballpark in a 2005 study of north downtown and worked on the streetcar project, said the new stadium linked to other downtown attractions would create "that wow factor."

"What it would do is turn our downtown into a true downtown," Bisson said.

But first things first. Fahey wants to turn the CWS agreement into a firm contract. That's likely to happen before the series opens at Rosenblatt Stadium on June 14.

CWS Inc. President Jack Diesing said a championship contract that runs through at least 2030 is an unprecedented feat of which Omaha should be proud. The city has hosted the CWS since 1950 with a series of one-year to five-year contracts.

"The NCAA does not have any agreements that are five years, let alone the 20-year deal we have," Diesing said.

The exact length of the contract is still being negotiated it's possible that the final contract could be for 25 years.

The agreement, called a memorandum of understanding, won't be finalized until the NCAA's top brass sign it; that is expected to happen in the next several days.

Oklahoma City is the only other city to secure a Division I championship long term it has been hosting the Women's College World Series for softball since 1991. But like Omaha's previous deals, Oklahoma City has been securing a series of five-year contracts with the NCAA.

"Most of the Division I championships move around," said Dan Morrissey, president of the Omaha Sports Commission. "That's what makes the CWS so unique."

While the 20-year length of the new agreement is something of a coup for Omaha, it's also a sign that the city should embrace the plan for a downtown ballpark, said Councilman Garry Gernandt, who represents south Omaha and has been lobbying to keep Rosenblatt.

"My congratulations to the mayor," Gernandt said after the agreement was announced. "It looks like it's time for the city to move on."

Gernandt said he plans to ask questions about the financing plan for the stadium and the revenue-sharing plan included in the NCAA agreement. The council would have to approve several details involving the construction of the new stadium.

Council President Dan Welch said his support for the project hinges on the details of the agreement with the NCAA, which he hasn't seen yet. The document was not released Wednesday.

"I'm encouraged by the progress that's been made, but I'm going to reserve judgment until I see the memorandum of understanding," he said. "The project has got to be viable."

Though there are some lingering questions, Welch said, he anticipates that a majority of the council will support the new stadium.


Personally I am against this idea, but only based on the fact that this would be a tax increase. If I could see some kind of a plan/ROI that shows this to be another tax neutral idea I could get behind it.

I guess the mayor figures he isn't going to win re-election and is trying to just get all of his ideas off the drawing board.

At least it isn't Lormong Lo's Grand Gondola Adventure.
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Mojo325is
McQueen...

Brazil
1654 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  3:49:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The streetcar has been on the drawing board for years and is a fantastic idea. It's a way to help ease traffic and parking congestion in the city, as well as a neat feature for the downtown area.

I think Lo's canal idea was completely misunderstood by the public; think OKC's Bricktown area or The Riverwalk in San Antonio. If you've ever experienced those two areas, you know his vision.

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Greg S
All-Star Mav

4101 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  4:37:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't really think of tax-increment financing as a tax increase.

The canals that they built in OKC are awesome. They have done a great job in the Bricktown area.

Greg
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  4:43:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know that they've discussed just how the streetcar idea would be funded, but the streetcar does two things: (1) give us something "cool" for downtown and (2) reduces the need for automobiles in those areas.

One of the things people have continually brought up in the CWS debate is lack of parking and traffic. The idea of the streetcar is... let's try to eliminate some of those cars. Rather than spend money to pave parking lots and widen streets (and build parking garages), we use streetcars to move people around downtown.

With a streetcar, suddenly parking at Creighton or in the Old Market for a CWS game is a viable alternative to the Qwest Center parking lots. Heck... it's even viable for a UNO hockey game in January.

I haven't seen the numbers, but in this day and age of $3.50 gas, alternatives to the automobile are certainly worth discussing.

I think the funding comes from (a) not spending money on streets and parking lots and (b) economic development around the lines. It might not mean any tax increases on your house. Can it be done? That's the question.

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Go Mavs
Junior Mav

USA
969 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  7:02:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wasn't there some light rail pork money back when Daub was around? If so, I'd rather see a light rail solution, than only thinking small and only thinking of downtown.

The problem with the planned streetcar option is that the population that is targeted to use it would mostly have to drive to get to it. That means they'd still have to find parking to use it, wouldn't they?

If the costs are reasonable, then maybe the streetcars get used. The only example of shuttling that I can think of is that used during the CWS. For $3, one-way, it was an expensive choice considering you can pile your car full and park for $10-20.

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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  9:39:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been told that to make it really effective, you ride the streetcars for free. The plan is to run the streetcars from Creighton (and possibly the new development near Mutual) to the Qwest Center to the Old Market. The idea is that people will easily go from one place to the next since it's free...and you save yourselves the hassle of collecting.

How do you make money with it? Well, it's cost avoidance for one thing. Plus, suddenly that land along the streetcar line becomes really desirable. And if you use tax increment financing, you can capture all of the money from property taxes and use it to pay for it.

Anyway, that's how it was explained to me.

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Mojo325is
McQueen...

Brazil
1654 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2008 :  08:42:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You also sell advertising on the street cars themselves.

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admin
U!N!O!

10827 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2008 :  09:23:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the streetcar idea is awesome.

I'd like to see a western branch extend past Mutual of Omaha to Dundee (one of my favorite parts of Omaha). If that happened, a large swath of eastern Omaha would be within walking distance of various streetcar stops and stations.

The way the city makes money is indirectly. By making older parts of urban Omaha more attractive to commercial and residential developers, you will increase the city's tax base in those areas. That happens relatively slowly, but the more you can increase property values west of 50th Street, the better it is for the financial health of Omaha.

As areas downtown are made more attractive, there is a halo effect in areas immediately surrounding. The entire midtown area and points north and south of downtown will benefit over time. That'll spur investment in decaying commercial/industrial areas, and down-trodden residential developments. That is good for Omaha.

You can't redevelop older parts of the city the way you do undeveloped parts of western Douglas County. You can't plant large, generic housing developments with expansive strip malls. You have to create a more unique environment in urban areas -- calling on novelty, nostalgia and historic style.

If a streetcar system extended to Dundee, thousands of Omahans would be able to hop the cars and attend large events like the CWS. It'd also mean that urban retailers (such as those in the Old Market) could market to an entirely different crowd -- and it'd mean that people along the line could hop a streetcar and avoid trying to find parking among the limited slots downtown.

Downtown Omaha was a burgeoning retail district in the early 1900s. But as westward expansion occurred, that aspect of downtown life died.

One of the things that makes downtown living attractive is access to retail/services within walking distance. That can be slow to develop with such a niche market for potential commercial developers.

If you connect midtown with downtown, you have an expanse of potential customers to draw from in an area with one of Omaha's highest population densities. It also creates the possibility of new hotels opening along the route in areas outside the "heart" of downtown.

Omaha is making an investment in a new baseball stadium, but ancillary changes must be made to accommodate that. As I said in an earlier post on one of the preceding 31 pages, there will have to be infrastructure changes made to facilitate holding an event like the CWS downtown.

A streetcar system -- or some sort of lightrail system -- makes sense.
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MavRick
A Better Fan Than You

USA
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Posted - 05/02/2008 :  10:45:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by admin
You can't redevelop older parts of the city the way you do undeveloped parts of western Douglas County. You can't plant large, generic housing developments with expansive strip malls. You have to create a more unique environment in urban areas -- calling on novelty, nostalgia and historic style.



This is absolutely true. I'd go even further: The best thinking in urban planning is that no responsible city should put suburban development anywhere - which is why smart communities are going with New Urbanism. A New Urbanist community is going in at 168th and State - one that revives walking and neighborhood as the centerpiece of city life, rather than the automobile and the strip center.

http://www.whatsnewonstatestreet.com/

What now passes for acceptable suburban development has made our traffic problems much worse, has caused the number of lane miles of road requiring storm drains, plowing and maintenance to skyrocket, has lowered the density of the city, causing police and fire costs to escalate, and has made us almost entirely dependent on cars. Exhibit A is the West Dodge Expressway, perhaps the most compelling indictment that we have allowed cars to become our masters rather than our servants.

And, for what it's worth, study after study after study shows that mass transit - even streetcars - only works where population density is high - which is why it works in Chicago and San Francisco, but not in Phoenix or Dallas.

I hope streetcars happen in a way that increase the development in our city's historic core and cultural center. Maybe someday there could be a line out to a rejuvenated Benson as well.



"This guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face." Strong Bad, "Dragon"
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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2008 :  10:53:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I remember correctly, the last time this was put out in the public (last year?) the discussion was based on cities our size that have a light rail/streetcar system. That discussion offered similar numbers ($50 million to install), and it also said the increased tax base/light rail loop spending only offset the annual maintenance/upkeep/costs.

So my concern is on the cost to install and startup.

I tried to find the story on the OWH website but had no luck. Does anyone else remember the story/discussion?
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav

1631 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2008 :  1:47:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been pretty impressed with the light rail in Minneapolis. If I lived in an area served by it, I would probably take it to work since I work downtown. The main problems I have with busses as public transportation (the fact that they are slow, do not always arrive/leave on time and are also affected by automobile traffic) are mostly all eliminated by the light rail.
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EdT
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Posted - 05/02/2008 :  10:31:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In 2007 the Federal budget for road construction was 39.1 billion dollars. Nebraska's approximate share of this was 330 million for F.Y. 2007. This does not include special projects specifically approved and funded (upgrading railroad crossings is one such special project) which would increase the amount of money Nebraska receives. This is in addition to state and county and city money being spent on roads. This is not a new development, but something that has existed and grown over most of the 20th century.

Guess what folks? This is an on-going government subsidy. Without it the car making industry and the car-truck transportation grid collapses. And its inherently 'not fair', because low population states like Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas, Wyoming, Montana, etc get a lot more money FROM the Federal government than they pay in. So people in high population states are paying for us to have highway construction. And most of them will never ever use any of those highways.

Demanding that any form of transportation be 'self supporting' is a joke. NO form of major transportation pays for itself. Not trains, barges, cars or airplanes. ALL receive Federal and state money to keep them going. Railroads get state and federal tax exemptions, Amtrack also gets direct funding. If new track is being laid (either for freight or passenger) the government will frequently use eminent domain to acquire property for the railroads. The airlines use the Federal Air Traffic control system, which includes both people and hardware (air traffic controllers, radar systems, etc). They also provide funds for the construction of airports. I've already mentioned what Nebraska gets for cars and trucks.

The question should be is it a cost-effective solution when compared to building AND MAINTAINING more or better roads and parking facilities. This is based upon population density and realistic use projections. If a rail/trolley system is going to need to charge so much money per rider so that even after whatever state/federal/local subsidies are applied that people won't use it, then don't build it. Otherwise it will never be cheaper than today.


>>The Definition of Madness is to repeat the same action over and over and expect a different result.<<
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dartben
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Posted - 05/03/2008 :  06:26:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EdT

So people in high population states are paying for us to have highway construction. And most of them will never ever use any of those highways.[/i]



Maybe not directly, but considering I-80 and I-70 are the two major shipping routes in the country for truck-based freight, I'm betting most East and Left Coasters get plenty of indirect use out of them. I'm thinking I-80 would be a lot less useful if it went from NYC to Chicago, stopped, then started again in Salt Lake and worked its way to San Francisco. The whole point of the Eisenhower Interstate system is to link the country together, which necessitates having roads in fly over country. It's pointless if a big chunk in the middle is missing.
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EdT
Freshman Mav

193 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  11:23:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dartben

quote:
Originally posted by EdT

So people in high population states are paying for us to have highway construction. And most of them will never ever use any of those highways.[/i]



Maybe not directly, but considering I-80 and I-70 are the two major shipping routes in the country for truck-based freight, I'm betting most East and Left Coasters get plenty of indirect use out of them. I'm thinking I-80 would be a lot less useful if it went from NYC to Chicago, stopped, then started again in Salt Lake and worked its way to San Francisco. The whole point of the Eisenhower Interstate system is to link the country together, which necessitates having roads in fly over country. It's pointless if a big chunk in the middle is missing.



That was the point I was trying to make. Just because *you* personally never use some road or railway doesn't mean you don't benefit from it. It's kind of a reverse NIMBY- a NIIDUI (Not If I Don't Use It).

>>The Definition of Madness is to repeat the same action over and over and expect a different result.<<
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mavaholic
Sophomore Mav

USA
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  12:51:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10328206

25 Years...

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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2008 :  12:59:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Published Tuesday May 6, 2008
Breaking News: College World Series deal is for 25 years
BY KAREN SLOAN
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

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You thought 20 years was good?

How does 25 sound?

Officials spearheading Omaha's ballpark effort announced that the College World Series will stay in Omaha for the next quarter of a century. That comes after last week's news that the tournament will be here "at least 20 years," starting in 2011.

Omaha Mayor Mike Fahey received a memorandum of understanding this morning signed by NCAA President Myles Brand that lays out the major aspects of the formal CWS contract that is expected to be inked next month.

"I think I have a new favorite number, and it's 25," Fahey said today, noting that while the city needed a minimum 20-year extension, he always hoped for 25 years.

The NCAA has never committed to a 20-year contract for one of its major championships, much less a 25-year deal. But College World Series of Omaha Inc. President Jack Diesing said he was "cautiously optimistic" from the beginning that Omaha could land a 25-year contract.

The agreement means that Omaha's signature event will be played at a new 24,000-seat downtown stadium through at least 2035. The series will remain at Rosenblatt Stadium through 2010.

The deal also creates a stadium design advisory committee that will monitor the design and construction of the new stadium, which will be built on parking lots C and E northeast of the Qwest Center Omaha. The committee will be made up of officials from CWS Inc., the NCAA, the Metropolitan Entertainment and Convention Authority, the city and major financial donors.
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West O Mike
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  1:02:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
25 years!?!?! Talk about a grand slam!

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25 years!!! Wow this is a great thing for the area. Hopefully all the infighting is done and we can move toward building a world class facility.

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