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LAKingsFan
Freshman Mav

114 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2008 :  02:09:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BIGHUSKERMAV

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Originally posted by LAKingsFan

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Originally posted by dartben

Besides the cigerette smoke inside casinos, what exactly is unhealthy about gambling? Oh yeah, I'm sure all those doctors taking Wed.'s off to go golfing aren't betting a penny while they're on the links.



I love gambling. It's addictive to certain people and destroys their lives. I've seen it. Marriages end, people end up on prescription depression drugs, etc.

Just thought it was weird that a doctor from UNMC (if he is--thinking he might be a low-level intern from his comments) would encourage addiction. Maybe he supports smoking and drinking too to attract more customers.



Nice...I have absolutely no idea who you're trying to insult here. You're using my comments to attack a completely different person - BRILLIANT!

I can assure you that I'm no doctor, but I also make a pretty nice living doing something I enjoy. I'm not sure why you're in such a rush to personally attack others that you don't even bother to realize who you're replying to.



My bad. Sorry. I guess I mistakenly replied to you. I'm not on here that much, and most "BigRed" or "BigHusker" user names look the same to me. You probably could have just told me that I made a mistake. Thanks for giving us an update on your career though.
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2008 :  2:34:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The SaveRosenblatt folks aren't the only ones in oooohspace...just the ones with the poorest design.

http://www.ourfound.com/
http://builditomaha.com/


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MavRick
A Better Fan Than You

USA
-3935 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2008 :  4:06:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Save Rosenblatt people are apparently reduced to arguing that the Qwest Center was a bad idea.

Game, set, match.



"Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard." Justice Robert Jackson, West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, Supreme Court of the United States (1943)
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Greg S
All-Star Mav

4101 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  10:35:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know how could ever argue that the Qwest was a bad idea....

Greg
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Pink12
TRTL BCH

USA
268 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2008 :  2:07:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Greg S

I don't know how could ever argue that the Qwest was a bad idea....

Greg



People who want to female dog about something/anything use delusions as logic and always will!!
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admin
U!N!O!

10825 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2008 :  10:23:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by West O Mike

http://www.ourfound.com/



Steve Brennan is a past client of mine. We edited 3 volumes of "Inside Recruiting: The Master Guide to Successful College Athletic Recruiting" for him...
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MavBridget
The Girl Wonder

France
6424 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2008 :  10:56:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heard yesterday:

The Omaha Royals pay $90 a game in rent AND get half the concessions.

Think MECA will give them the same deal at the new stadium?
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2008 :  11:12:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Royals get a sweetheart deal at Rosenblatt. At one time, they also got half the concessions from CWS games as well.

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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2008 :  08:29:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's correct. They would have gone broke back when Gus Cherry sold the team if that deal wasn't in place. Not sure if they've changed or not over the past 5 years or so. I assume they did.

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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2008 :  5:08:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems MECA's unhappy again...

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10292939

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The city made a formal offer today to address parking, traffic and other issues, but that offer was unacceptable, said David Sokol, chairman of MECA.

Sokol declined to release the details of the city's offer.

After weeks of positive negotiations, Sokol said, the city's proposal amounted to "a left turn" away from previously settled items.

David Kramer, another MECA board member, said the city's formal proposal was more like a "U-turn."

Hal Daub, another MECA member, said he wonders whether there is enough time to resolve the logistical questions over parking and traffic as well as stadium finance issues before the next meeting with the NCAA at the end of April.

The setback came on the same day that NCAA officials were in Omaha to begin looking at Omaha's plan to pay for the new $140 million stadium is expected to cost. Those discussions were described as positive by Sokol and Roger Dixon, the Qwest Center president who participated in the meetings.

Mayor Mike Fahey sought to downplay the latest dispute with MECA, saying he is pleased with the progress and remains confident an agreement can be worked out.

The traffic and parking issues are largely resolved, Fahey said. "MECA has raised additional issues relating to future development on their remaining parking lots," Fahey said.

The mayor offered assurances that the city would not initiate further development on the parking lots without MECA's consent. The pledge apparently was insufficient for the MECA board.

Sokol said he would have a counter offer to the mayor on Wednesday. He said he hoped Fahey would find the counter proposal acceptable and the project would be back on track.


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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  12:51:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep...it's time for another round with the Qwestapo...

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All the Metropolitan Entertainment and Convention Authority board wanted was an ironclad agreement that the city would never attempt to develop the center's other parking lots.

Mayor Mike Fahey offered assurances that the city had no designs on the other lots, but the city's legal advisers say he is prohibited from making a guarantee.

That single issue brought the Omaha stadium battle to another crisis point. Today could prove critical in determining whether Fahey and the MECA board chairman, David Sokol, can find a way beyond the new impasse.

This dispute isn't about Rosenblatt Stadium. It's not about parking, traffic or even the proposed ballpark on lots C and E.

It's about who controls the convention and arena parking lots.

The city owns the property. Thus, city officials have said that they have the authority to develop the land without MECA's permission and claim it, if necessary, through eminent domain. That power grants governments the authority to take land for "a public purpose" in exchange for fair compensation.

However, MECA holds a 99-year lease on the land, and its attorney says MECA retains control of the parking lots.

"If the mayor doesn't waive eminent domain," Sokol said after a MECA board meeting Tuesday, "it's not going to happen on lots C and E."

The five-member MECA board is unanimous on that point, Sokol said.

But Fahey has been advised that he cannot give away a power granted to the city by the Nebraska Legislature.

"I told the mayor that it would be illegal contrary to the law," said City Attorney Paul Kratz. "He can't waive the power of eminent domain."

Bill Lamson, a private Omaha attorney whom the Fahey administration consulted, came to the same conclusion. Neither Fahey nor the City Council can make such a promise, he said, unless the Legislature changes the law.

"You just can't bind future mayors and councils," Lamson said.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10292939

It's not like MECA hasn't already been able to stymie development of those parking lots.

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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  1:02:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said it way back on like page 13 or so, it is time to figure out a way to vote MECA out of QCO.
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MavEconomist
Junior Mav

Tonga
585 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  1:13:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm confused. Or, then again, maybe I'm not confused and that's the problem.

Eminent domain allows the city to condemn and purchase certain properties. Why does the city need to purchase any of the QCO lots? Doesn't the city already own these lots? Why would eminent domain even apply to changes in use of these lots?



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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  1:48:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe that the eminent domain laws also allow for leases to be invalidated or terminated. Otherwise, someone who wanted to fight an eminent domain attempt could just lease the property in question (or sell it to a shell company and then lease it back for a nominal fee) and avoid the whole mess.

Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  2:27:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good lord...just find some way to absolve Mecca. Make something up....no one cares.
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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  4:55:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder how much money MECA is spending on legal bills with this thing?
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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  07:27:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can MECA be recalled? Serious question.

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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  08:05:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AJMav

Can MECA be recalled? Serious question.


I'm not sure the individual members could be. But since the citizens voted to create MECA at the same time they voted to approve the Qwest Center, I would assume that those same voters could vote to disband them. And I would assume that the citizens could put together a petition to put that issue on the ballot.

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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  08:58:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Off topic - Is this the longest Mavpuck thread ever?
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CaseyMav
#10

Botswana
2337 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  09:36:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's certainly the longest one that wasn't comprised of 20 pages of "You suck!" "No, YOU suck!" posts...

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MavEconomist
Junior Mav

Tonga
585 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  1:30:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by West O Mike

I believe that the eminent domain laws also allow for leases to be invalidated or terminated. Otherwise, someone who wanted to fight an eminent domain attempt could just lease the property in question (or sell it to a shell company and then lease it back for a nominal fee) and avoid the whole mess.

Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com

The fog of Dublin still in my head required me to think about this for a few days.

It still doesn't make sense to me because your scenario implies that the city can invalidate a lease on a tenant and take by eminent domain the tenant's domicile (that is owned by the landlord). However, in the case of the lots the city is the landlord and MECA is the tenant. So, there is still no need for eminent domain, although there may be a case for an eviction.

I half wonder if Sokol is calling for the city to promise no eminent domain because MECA intends to use that promise as evidence that MECA actually owns the QCO and its lots. But that's the conspiracy theorist in me...

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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  4:42:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think there are different rules as to when a landlord can terminate a lease versus when a government body can exercise eminent domain to take over property. I'm no lawyer nor landlord nor leasee, but if I did rent some property, I'd hate to think that the landlord could change his mind at any time and throw me out. By that same token, the city can go through eminent domain and exercise their rights to take property. And I would assume that eminent domain would also invalidate the lease.

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MavRick
A Better Fan Than You

USA
-3935 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  9:16:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes. The power of eminent domain can extinguish any property right in exchange for just compensation under the Fifth Amendment. Including a lease.

Disclaimer: This is not legal advice. Don't get legal advice from hockey boards. Call a lawyer if you need one.



"Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard." Justice Robert Jackson, West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, Supreme Court of the United States (1943)
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MavBridget
The Girl Wonder

France
6424 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  11:47:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MavRick


Disclaimer: This is not legal advice. Don't get legal advice from hockey boards. Call a lawyer if you need one.



Best disclaimer ever on Mavpuck.
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MavEconomist
Junior Mav

Tonga
585 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2008 :  08:52:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Something still doesn't sit right. The "just compensation" part bothers me (and has since this was brought up by Davy-boy). It just doesn't feel like any of the other eminent domain situations I have worked on (yes, I was a "government stooge" for a while), since the government already owns the land in this case.

Oh well, MavRick's disclaimer was funny.

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dartben
Sophomore Mav

404 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2008 :  10:13:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A leaseholder has property rights. Not as many as an owner, but they still have a couple of "sticks in a bundle." The gov't cannot take them away without just compensation.
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MavML
Sophomore Mav

USA
336 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2008 :  12:19:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just wanted to be a part of this thread.

The shadow of the Wicker man is rising up again!
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West O Mike
All-Star Mav

Christmas Island
5308 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2008 :  1:00:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

http://revolution-21.blogspot.com/2008/02/does-that-make-hal-daub-mini-me.html

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MavEconomist
Junior Mav

Tonga
585 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2008 :  3:05:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOL

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elenasmom
Senior Mav

Uzbekistan
1116 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2008 :  08:13:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well MECCA of course is the all powerful controlling body of all things Qwest....and they never wanted to give up the parking lots, they just went along with Hitler oops Fahey.....and now they are back to their original No Fing way stance....works for me....

Red Army alive and well in 106
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