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West O Mike
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Christmas Island
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Posted - 03/08/2008 :  10:19:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10278618
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The words of warning came from Jack Diesing Jr., president of CWS of Omaha Inc., who is in his 44th year of involvement with the series and Rosenblatt Stadium.

After the two-hour public session on building a new stadium, Diesing said in an interview that turning away from the current plan would be an invitation for the NCAA to seek other cities to bid on Omaha's 59-year tradition as host of the CWS.

"If we don't do this, and do nothing, it's not a good option," he said.

"If we change our approach now," Diesing told the crowd, "it's my opinion that we won't have an opportunity for a long-term agreement."

The NCAA is doing Omaha a favor by giving the city a chance to lock down a 20-year contract as host of the CWS in exchange for the new stadium, he said.

While the $140 million cost may seem expensive, Diesing said, he believes other cities perhaps Oklahoma City, a Texas town or somewhere else would offer the NCAA even more to host the CWS.

At a public session Saturday on building a new stadium, Vickey Parks asks how much money the city of Omaha might lose if the CWS were to move to another city.
The NCAA, not the City of Omaha, owns the CWS, Diesing said.


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CaseyMav
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Posted - 03/08/2008 :  10:28:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Omaha is totally going to smurf this up.

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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

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Posted - 03/08/2008 :  11:40:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just don't get it. Do people understand that if we stayed at Rosenblatt, it was going to be totally demolished adn rebuilt. All of the heritage that we would lose by moving downtown would be gone as well. And we still wouldn't have the other things the NCAA wants.

We stay in South O, we get a new stadium w/o hotels/restaurants and we spend the same amount of money and we have traffic congestion.

We go downtown, we get a new stadium w/ hotels/restaurants and we spend the same amoun t of money and we ahve traffic congestion and we have a better zoo.....
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dartben
Sophomore Mav

404 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2008 :  2:55:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So who on here sent in the question to the Ask Shatel? That was freaking weak. Division 2 baseball is as big a spectator sport as high school tiddlywinks. What the heck would UNO do with a 25,000 seat baseball stadium?
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admin
U!N!O!

10825 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2008 :  5:30:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dartben

So who on here sent in the question to the Ask Shatel? That was freaking weak. Division 2 baseball is as big a spectator sport as high school tiddlywinks. What the heck would UNO do with a 25,000 seat baseball stadium?



Not me, but they'd mentioned that as a possibility a few years ago in the OWH.

Personally speaking, I'd consider purchasing season tickets if they played in the new ballpark...
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NoClu
Senior Mav

Equatorial Guinea
1723 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2008 :  08:27:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean the High School field out at Boys Town isn't good enough? UNO just refurbished it a few years ago. (Thanks Bob D.!)

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West O Mike
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Christmas Island
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Posted - 03/11/2008 :  12:31:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by CaseyMav

Omaha is totally going to smurf this up.


It's starting to look that way...
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Councilman Franklin Thompson said the negative reaction of the audience will make it even more difficult to come to a decision on the stadium issue.

The City Council will be asked to approve several aspects of the downtown ballpark plan. Thompson said that if he had to make a decision today, he would vote against the plan because of the public response.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10280159

That's three out of seven council members either vehmently opposed or leaning against it.

Reading between the lines of what Thompson said, it sound more like he wants to stay out from the cross-hairs of the mob.

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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2008 :  4:44:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really do not like Franklin Thompson. Never have, I wish I could vote against him.
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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2008 :  8:43:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That deafening silence you hear is from the NCAA. If they cared one inkling about Rosenblatt's "charm" "personality" or the land of gumdrop fairies and rainbow sprinkles that somehow lives in it's parking lots (according to the Save Rosenblatt idiots)...you would hear them say so. Instead, they say nothing.

Yet one more time...I've met Jack Diessing. I've had to deal with Jack Diessing. Jack Diessing is one of the biggest sunshine pumping pro-Rosenblatt, whackjob yay-hoos you'll ever meet in your life. And if HE is against the rennovation, you should listen.

I can't believe this many stupid people live here. I mean...I had some idea....but I never thought they would actually show themselves in public in such a way. It's absolutely amazing.

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admin
U!N!O!

10825 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2008 :  9:54:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The sad thing is that they handled this poorly from the get-go.

They should have waited to make any public announcements about a potential baseball stadium downtown until after they put a committee together, came up with a realistic source of funding (not the entertainment/restaurant tax), and had things smoothed over with MECA. No public statements should have been made until they'd crafted a detailed proposal.

Instead, they did it backwards -- irritating many people in the process.

Unfortunately, first impressions are hard to change in the world of public policy.

Be that as it may, I'll be shocked if the city council doesn't approve a new baseball stadium.
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The Judge
Sophomore Mav

Germany
415 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2008 :  10:09:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The NCAA is about one thing: $$$$$. If you base all predictions of what they will do on that, you'll be correct nearly all the time.


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elenasmom
Senior Mav

Uzbekistan
1116 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  12:23:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judge is right the almighty dollar is the bottom line. People seem to forget that all the other major NCAA sports change venues all the time, eventually this day had to come. I am not a fan of building a new stadium and I really don't want to help pay for it, but I do want to keep the series. I do not the Qwest parkng lot is a good idea. A police got run over at Bon Jovi for crying out loud, what will happen if there is a large concert and a game? I am not sure there is anything in the world that would cause me to try to drive downtown in that situation. I think the biggest problem with this mess was the "secret" type stance that was taken. As for the city council, they will pass it eventually, but it is going to take some more smooth talking, or strong-arming, pick your tactic.

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NoClu
Senior Mav

Equatorial Guinea
1723 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  08:35:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UGGGGG!
Every time I hear (or read) "If there is a concert and a game at the same time" I really want to bang my head on a table. I've been to the Qwest about 150 times since it has opened. In that period of time, I've had 2 times that it took more than 15 minutes to get out of the parking lot and onto major streets. In the 12-15 CWS games I've been to it has taken at least 20 minutes to get out of the neighborhood parking onto a major street. EVERY TIME! Parking is not a huge issue. It is being addressed and it is not a chronic or traumatic or even problematic issue.
Fehey cluster f-smurfed this up with a horrible process, muddled funding ideas, etc. It doesn't make the downtown stadium a bad idea though. I hope the idea makes it to reality.

F-it. Baseball can leave this city for all I care. Tax payers can pony up the $ to replace the annual economic benefit of the CWS being here. Residents can watch Rosenblatt crumble into rust and dust surrounded by a neighborhood of little homes as they pay off 1995 debt for unused outfield bleachers. Think backwards. Wish for "the good old days" Dream Small. Start planning your 2011 trip to Orlando, "New" home of the CWS.

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Mojo325is
McQueen...

Brazil
1654 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  09:13:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
koterba says it pretty good today...




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mrkaline
Mav Scout in Indiana

Poland
1475 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2008 :  8:44:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stop teasing me with the possibility of moving it to Indy. It would do very well here, and you guys would like coming out to visit my fair city. But seriously, it's not going anywhere, you guys will pony up the cash!
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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  11:25:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is better than any soap opera. I didn't think I could love to mock any group more than the Save Rosenblatt nerds. And then..out of nowhere comes the "impeach Fahey" nerds. It's one of the most incredible displays of stupidity that I've ever seen. Seriously...what clu is right..what the hell is it going to take to make these people get it?

Rosenblatt is the TENTH oldest stadium in all of minor league baseball. (Which is talking about 130-140 teams/stadiums). I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure NONE of the other 9 older ballparks have an event that draws 240,000 people over a two week span. (Let alone are getting cornholed by the NCAA in the process)

I've said it once...I'll say it yet again...I hope if the series leaves...those responsible will be held accountable. That list as of right now:

- Save Rosenblatt nerds
- Garry Gernandt
- Deer Park Neighborhood Association
- The 2 other Council members opposed
- The "Impeach Fahey" nerds
- MECA (only because I'm sure they're funding the Save Rosenblatt campaign, just to take power away from the Mayor's office just to feel better about their authority.)
- Bruce Rasmussen Crighton AD. (You can damn well bet that they've thrown their collective weight around in terms of the whole parking b*tch session going on. Who else is going to complain that loud? Bon Jovi fans?)
- Buddy Powers
- Jed Ortmeyer

Please feel free to add your own.

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dartben
Sophomore Mav

404 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  12:23:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AJMav

- Bruce Rasmussen Crighton AD. (You can damn well bet that they've thrown their collective weight around in terms of the whole parking b*tch session going on. Who else is going to complain that loud? Bon Jovi fans?)


That's funny, since according to the other idiots listed above, Creighton's getting a sweethart deal playing in the new stadium without paying for it. Yet you're thinking they don't want a new stadium that they can rent out for pennies on the dollar to what an on-campus stadium would cost?
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Mojo325is
McQueen...

Brazil
1654 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  1:21:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From Omaha's daily newspaper...

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Welch and Sigerson said Fahey provided more detailed information today that made them feel more comfortable with Fahey's plan.

Welch said his main concern is the long-term reliability of the projected revenue sources to pay for the stadium. He needs to be assured, he said, that property taxes won't eventually have to be raised to pay for it. Welch said that has been a big concern in constituent e-mails.

He said he sought and received assurances from Fahey that projections for keno revenues to support the stadium would hold up.

"I'm now more comfortable than ever that we're not going to have a property tax increase," Welch said today.


And because he's anti-progress...

quote:
Asked about the frozen-food plant demolition, Gernandt said he'll oppose it, as well as any other contracts connected to the mayor's plan.

"Anything that's affiliated with a new downtown stadium, I will oppose," he said


They need to tear that plant down, regardless of the stadium issue. It's an eyesore and a hazard to the community.

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hackermav
Minister of Antagonism

1039 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  3:36:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe Gernandt will support it if the plant has the building number posted on the backside so the police will know where they are?
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  10:24:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bet the same people female doging about the revenue are the ones that voted against "video keno" machines a couple years ago. Seriously, who the smurf sees "video keno" as an issue of morality? Oh right...the same people that think a generic minor league ballpark is more important than having the College World Series.
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LAKingsFan
Freshman Mav

114 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  10:54:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BIGHUSKERMAV

I bet the same people female doging about the revenue are the ones that voted against "video keno" machines a couple years ago. Seriously, who the smurf sees "video keno" as an issue of morality? Oh right...the same people that think a generic minor league ballpark is more important than having the College World Series.



So let me get this straight. You are a doctor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center and are promoting and supporting what to many people are unhealthy, addictive behaviors (gambling) that can possibly lead to depression (requiring drugs that you write prescriptions for), divorce, and an overall decline in public health?

I'm not necessarily against your position, but I've never heard a medical doctor promote unhealthy behavior such as gambling. Please explain more clearly. Thanks. I'll be fascinated by your answer.
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dartben
Sophomore Mav

404 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  11:20:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Besides the cigerette smoke inside casinos, what exactly is unhealthy about gambling? Oh yeah, I'm sure all those doctors taking Wed.'s off to go golfing aren't betting a penny while they're on the links.
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LAKingsFan
Freshman Mav

114 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  11:44:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dartben

Besides the cigerette smoke inside casinos, what exactly is unhealthy about gambling? Oh yeah, I'm sure all those doctors taking Wed.'s off to go golfing aren't betting a penny while they're on the links.



I love gambling. It's addictive to certain people and destroys their lives. I've seen it. Marriages end, people end up on prescription depression drugs, etc.

Just thought it was weird that a doctor from UNMC (if he is--thinking he might be a low-level intern from his comments) would encourage addiction. Maybe he supports smoking and drinking too to attract more customers.
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2008 :  12:04:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LAKingsFan

quote:
Originally posted by BIGHUSKERMAV

I bet the same people female doging about the revenue are the ones that voted against "video keno" machines a couple years ago. Seriously, who the smurf sees "video keno" as an issue of morality? Oh right...the same people that think a generic minor league ballpark is more important than having the College World Series.



So let me get this straight. You are a doctor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center and are promoting and supporting what to many people are unhealthy, addictive behaviors (gambling) that can possibly lead to depression (requiring drugs that you write prescriptions for), divorce, and an overall decline in public health?

I'm not necessarily against your position, but I've never heard a medical doctor promote unhealthy behavior such as gambling. Please explain more clearly. Thanks. I'll be fascinated by your answer.



Uhm...I have no idea who you think you're responding to (bigredmed?), but I can assure you that I'm not a doctor.

I just find it humorous how tightly many Nebraskans have their buttcheeks firmly clenched on certain issues. I can understand why someone wouldn't want a bunch of casinos to open up along the river (like they have in CouncilTucky), but video keno? It just makes me laugh (and also feel sad) that there are actually people out there who think video keno is going to be the downfall of society.

Sorry for bringing it up...It really had nothing to do with this thread, but after 26 pages it's really hard to stay on topic.
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BIGHUSKERMAV
Senior Mav

1631 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2008 :  12:07:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LAKingsFan

quote:
Originally posted by dartben

Besides the cigerette smoke inside casinos, what exactly is unhealthy about gambling? Oh yeah, I'm sure all those doctors taking Wed.'s off to go golfing aren't betting a penny while they're on the links.



I love gambling. It's addictive to certain people and destroys their lives. I've seen it. Marriages end, people end up on prescription depression drugs, etc.

Just thought it was weird that a doctor from UNMC (if he is--thinking he might be a low-level intern from his comments) would encourage addiction. Maybe he supports smoking and drinking too to attract more customers.



Nice...I have absolutely no idea who you're trying to insult here. You're using my comments to attack a completely different person - BRILLIANT!

I can assure you that I'm no doctor, but I also make a pretty nice living doing something I enjoy. I'm not sure why you're in such a rush to personally attack others that you don't even bother to realize who you're replying to.
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NoClu
Senior Mav

Equatorial Guinea
1723 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2008 :  08:59:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Remaining off topic
Addictions I've heard of:
Food
Sex
Illegal Drugs
Legal Drugs
Gambling
christian
Cigarettes
Alcohol
Hockey (sorry, just remembered an old poster's handle)
Aerosols
Attention
Body Building/Exercising
Coffee
Collecting Pets
Fame
Internet
Work
Collecting/Hording
Self harm/Mutilation
Video Games

Point being, there's a lot of "normal" behavior and activities on the list. It's not the behavior on the list, it is the "Addiction" part of the story. I have little tolerance for people that believe that a) because they don't like an activity or behavior means that no one should like that behavior or activity, b) their moral code or perspective should apply to everyone else.

FOCUS on Topic: I would really hope that people who support the downtown field will call their city council memebers.

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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2008 :  12:14:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dartben

That's funny, since according to the other idiots listed above, Creighton's getting a sweethart deal playing in the new stadium without paying for it. Yet you're thinking they don't want a new stadium that they can rent out for pennies on the dollar to what an on-campus stadium would cost?



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Pink12
TRTL BCH

USA
268 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2008 :  1:30:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just received the following email from the Omaha Chamber of Commerce...yet another hat in the ring for the stadium...thought I would share.


"In support of the conclusions of the Stinson baseball stadium committee, the Chamber board of directors approved the following statement today.

The Greater Omaha Chamber of Commerce supports the effort to keep the NCAA men's College World Series in Omaha for the long-term.

Our interest in this stems from the fact that each year, the CWS generates nearly $40 million in economic activity throughout the entire Omaha community. The importance of signing an unprecedented 20-year contract represents close to a $1 billion economic impact.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Omaha - no other city has been given this type of opportunity. Throughout the process, we have supported the work of the Stinson committee to determine location, funding and design of a community ballpark.

We support the committee's recommendations presented to the NCAA and will assist in generating community consensus to move forward.

This is about more than the baseball stadium. This is about two exciting economic development opportunities: one on the north side of the city and the other on the south side.

It is now time for Chamber members to rally around this once in a lifetime opportunity for our community. I encourage you to e-mail your city councilman and let him know that Omaha businesses agree that this proposal is what is best for the entire city.

I am including a list of city councilmen and their e-mail addresses. Make your position known as stadium-related issues come up for a vote.

District 1: Jim Suttle jsuttle@ci.omaha.ne.us
District 2: Frank Brown fbrown@ci.omaha.ne.us
District 3: Jim Vokal jvokal@ci.omaha.ne.us
District 4: Garry Gernandt ggernandt@ci.omaha.ne.us
District 5: Dan Welch dwelch@ci.omaha.ne.us
District 6: Franklin Thompson fthompson@ci.omaha.ne.us
District 7: Chuck Sigerson, Jr. csigerson@ci.omaha.ne.us

Regards,

David G. Brown
President and CEO
Greater Omaha Chamber of Commerce

Related information:

Information sheet
Chamber news release about board of directors approval
Omaha Stadium Web site


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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2008 :  4:35:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is hope for this town yet.
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AJMav
Minister of Anger

Iran
4503 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2008 :  11:41:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ummmmm......this is interesting.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200&u_sid=10284711

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