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| West O Mike |
Posted - 03/14/2008 : 8:47:53 PM
Weasels blast the Mavs 10-1. Vent here.
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com |
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| CaseyMav |
Posted - 03/18/2008 : 3:30:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bennyc
Great thread, really... perspective does matter, very much so... but go to the video and judge for yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
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Aaaaaaaah! Rick-rolled! 
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| MaizeNBrew |
Posted - 03/18/2008 : 12:45:13 AM
The event staff (affectionately called the "Yellow Jackets") are worthless. I don't believe they are even paid, there is a waiting list to become one, and basically the dudes just watch the game. OldBrew even witnessed them stashing away promotional items for themselves since they were in the stadium first. But even so they aren't even consistantly worthless, they'll pick some random moment to do something so entirely stupid that you are just left with WTF. |
| MavBridget |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 11:03:39 PM
I have sent my comments. |
| ControlledChaos |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 11:02:02 PM
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Originally posted by MavBridget
There is plenty of room in Section 11. That's not the issue.
I will *not* lead a bus trip into Ann Arbor until their event staff learns how to control escalated fan interaction issues. How they handled the incident with Mr. Scero (and the students dumping food/beverages on the players on the bench) is simply unacceptable.
We've had situations in the past where opposing fans have interacted not-so-well with our fans, but a competent event staff will step in. The Yost event staff was horrible about this.
All of you who have been on my bus trips know that I take your wellbeing very seriously. I was very disappointed in the Yost event staff, and will be letting them know that. There are stupid fans everywhere (even in Omaha). But it's how the event staff handles the issue that makes a difference.
As I recall from Mr. Scero when he came up to Section 11 to tell us what happened, he said the Yost staff person was laughing as the kid taunted the parents...Obviously not doing his job... |
| ControlledChaos |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 10:57:18 PM
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Originally posted by bennyc
Great thread, really... perspective does matter, very much so... but go to the video and judge for yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
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WTF?! Hahahaha...nice video. This cracks me up. |
| elenasmom |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 8:17:05 PM
I will be emailing and personally writing! One can only hope for some improvement, for us and other teams that visit Yost in the future.
Red Army alive and well in 106 |
| Go Mavs |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 7:49:57 PM
I mailed my comments to Dr. Coleman earlier today and cc'd a few others. I truly don't expect an improvement, but if no one formally says anything, then for certain nothing will happen. And I mailed it instead of emailing. I think for these types of communications, the "mail moment" has much more impact.
GO MAVS! |
| NoClu |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 7:26:00 PM
The staff of that arena have a history of poorly handling issues like this. They are unlikely to change without pressure from fans of all teams that play there. Please report personal experiences and share your opintions regarding how they were handled.
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Serving it up for 5 + years!"
Steve Coppard M.S.W. University of Michigan, Class of 1990. |
| elenassister |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 7:05:31 PM
Well hopefully they learned from this experience and they will be ready if this situation should ever happen again. I hope it does not. But you have to give the team credit we played alot better on Saturday. But I never would have thought that the students would actually harass our team parents. Unbelievable and then the students got to stay while Brandon's dad had to come and sit up in the UNO fan section. The way Yost handled this incident was horrible. And i hope this never happens again. |
| elenasmom |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 6:01:18 PM
I agree with Bridget 150% the event staff blew it big time. I witnessed all of the behavior listed above first hand, and the MI students following Brandon after he stopped to talk with his dad, was it event staff that looked after his well being?? NOPE again, it was fellow mav fans that took the initiative to follow the followers and make sure nothing further happened. I will think twice before taking my childen to Yost again. The things we dealt with after the game while leaving was an outrage, I would have been really fearful if MI had lost. We have bad fans here to but I have never seen anything this bad in Omaha.
Red Army alive and well in 106 |
| MavBridget |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 1:11:03 PM
There is plenty of room in Section 11. That's not the issue.
I will *not* lead a bus trip into Ann Arbor until their event staff learns how to control escalated fan interaction issues. How they handled the incident with Mr. Scero (and the students dumping food/beverages on the players on the bench) is simply unacceptable.
We've had situations in the past where opposing fans have interacted not-so-well with our fans, but a competent event staff will step in. The Yost event staff was horrible about this.
All of you who have been on my bus trips know that I take your wellbeing very seriously. I was very disappointed in the Yost event staff, and will be letting them know that. There are stupid fans everywhere (even in Omaha). But it's how the event staff handles the issue that makes a difference. |
| CampUSA |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 12:28:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Streaker
Right now the CCHA officiating is as bad as I have seen it in the 30 years I have followed Michigan Hockey.
SAM-this is your turn to get off the bench, step it up.
About the games at Yost. I went not knowing what to expect. Enjoyed seeing the building, lots of History and well presented. I had no problem walking around inside or out. Talked to fans, very pleasant.
Shout out to Rick from Jen in Michigan, said she hoped to see you at the Joe.
The people were pleasant in downtown while shopping in Ann Arbor. Was a bit worried about how we would get out to the car on Saturday, but no problem. Enjoyed seeing the students party Saturday morning, had tables with a keg and pleanty of full glasses of?? at 9:00am. Many were walking from bar to bar in their MSU wear(green).
I did like how the Mich. fans cheered together and supported their team. I am with Bridget, another trip would be possible, but probably not a bus trip, not sure we would all fit up in the rafters.
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| Streaker |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 10:54:43 AM
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Originally posted by Its Maverick Hockey Time
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Your poke at Berenson smacks with the same disrespect your fanbase claims that Michigan fan abuses. Shegos called a horrible game, period. Almost Wilkins-esque. No amount of experience or respect can cover that up. Get over yourself and your bitter conspiracy theories. Yeah, he's a Michigan grad, too
Take it easy and enjoy the trip to the Joe. It happens to the "big boys" in every sport and Michigan is the big boy of the CCHA. Tom Osborne got calls when he coached Nebraska, Michael Jordan got calls when he played. If Albert Pujols is at the plate with two strikes and the pitch is close, the umpire will probably give him the call and not call it a third strike. Sidney Crosby is the darling of the NHL right now and will get the benefit of the doubt on many calls. As much as it might irritate people, it happens and will always happen.
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I'm plenty relaxed and will enjoy my time at the JLA. Playing the "big boy card" is alot like playing the race card. When there is no other fact to substantiate, march it out. How much does it get played for MSU? Do you realize the Commish is a MSU grad? You know, the guy that makes the officating assignments?
Berenson and Comley not only are in charge of the two most successful programs in the CCHA and the country, but also hold the most seniority. I know they influence the policies in the league, but I guarantee you that coach Kemp holds as much respect as they do when it comes to the officials. I like Piotrowski and I think he will eventually get the right talent- but currently the consistency of the officiating is fair to bad.
Right now the CCHA officiating is as bad as I have seen it in the 30 years I have followed Michigan Hockey. It's bad for all teams, and it appears that no one is getting any favors. Certainly, there were none handed out saturday night. 6-2 PP advantage for the visitors and a ton of non-calls, including a blatantly missed too many men was really strange.
Funny, the CCHA then assigns Shegos to the NMU/MSU game yesterday and he called about the same # of calls both ways, although the GWG in OT was... on the PP. |
| elenasmom |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 9:38:16 PM
I do think that MI had a great student section, that UNO could take some notes from. I think there were questionable calls on both sides. Our boys made a GREAT effort sat and ran out of time. I will say there is NO EXCUSE to heckle the parents face to face, that crossed the line, and Mr Scero handled it very well, by being the grown up and doing as asked. He was there to watch his son play, not argue with opposing fans. I hope that this doesn't marr all the good memories that the Scero's have being part of Mav hockey....Scero is our hero...always!
Red Army alive and well in 106 |
| Its Maverick Hockey Time |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 3:20:17 PM
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Your poke at Berenson smacks with the same disrespect your fanbase claims that Michigan fan abuses. Shegos called a horrible game, period. Almost Wilkins-esque. No amount of experience or respect can cover that up. Get over yourself and your bitter conspiracy theories. Yeah, he's a Michigan grad, too
Take it easy and enjoy the trip to the Joe. It happens to the "big boys" in every sport and Michigan is the big boy of the CCHA. Tom Osborne got calls when he coached Nebraska, Michael Jordan got calls when he played. If Albert Pujols is at the plate with two strikes and the pitch is close, the umpire will probably give him the call and not call it a third strike. Sidney Crosby is the darling of the NHL right now and will get the benefit of the doubt on many calls. As much as it might irritate people, it happens and will always happen.
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Carl Sagan |
| StLooMav |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 11:47:41 AM
Much better effort by the boys. I can now be less bitter during the off-season.
The only bitterness now will be the departure of the seniors and their parents. Good luck to all of them in the future. Thanks for all of your efforts.
'I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.' - Dignam ("The Departed") |
| Streaker |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 10:49:00 AM
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Originally posted by Its Maverick Hockey Time
Only at Michigan could a fan come over and taunt the parents right in front of their face and be able to go right back to his seat while the parents get tossed from the game.
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Michigan seemed to not have the same jump and I think were frustrated with the officiating.
Could it possibly be that Matt Shegos has enough respect and experience that he doesn't have to kiss Red's A** to get the prime assignments.
Just once I want UNO to overachieve in a year and surprise everyone. UM was picked to finish fourth and they found a way to finish first. The wait till next year attitude is getting old, at some point it has to be the year.
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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
Carl Sagan
Stop being ignorant. No program is exempt from this behavior. I agree with Admin that Michigan's security, which consists of the >60 crew at Yost, needs to re-address control before incidents occur and then enforce them correctly.
Your poke at Berenson smacks with the same disrespect your fanbase claims that Michigan fan abuses. Shegos called a horrible game, period. Almost Wilkins-esque. No amount of experience or respect can cover that up. Get over yourself and your bitter conspiracy theories. Yeah, he's a Michigan grad, too. |
| Streaker |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 10:34:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by AJMav
Streaker, you have already earned your lifetime exemption as a non-target of this discussion. That has not been forgotten.
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Good to know that. The respect is mutual. I do wish better future success for your program.
Mavs fans: thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts on your site. |
| bennyc |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 09:46:34 AM
Great thread, really... perspective does matter, very much so... but go to the video and judge for yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
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| UNOMav |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 08:19:18 AM
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Originally posted by OldBrew
I don't disagree about the lack of collegiate experience, however these players have been playing, probably at USHL or equivalent and should be expected to have gained some level of experience.
As information, Michigan has three freshmen, three sophomores and one junior in their defensive core. They also have zero senior defense men.
The difference is that Michigan's young players are simply better. Michigan recruits the cream of the crop. Michigan has the ability to recruit dominant offensive players that control the puck which takes pressure off the young defense. Kolarik and Porter are a couple of the best forwards in the country. I wouldn't think any DI coach wants a young defense like that, but if they do...they want an offense that can control the puck for long periods of time...it is pretty hard for the opposing team to score if they don't control the puck.
The interesting thing would be if/when Michigan runs up against a team with a power offense that can neutralize their offensive power and also test Michigan's young defense...obviously there aren't many teams in college hockey with that ability.
Still aiming for #1. |
| AJMav |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:47:08 AM
Bridget, thanks for the housecleaning this morning. I didn't really need to read that guy's B.S. today.
Safe travels home.
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| dupont_fan |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:45:10 AM
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Originally posted by ellisfan
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Originally posted by dupont_fan
That's crazy to me that a weasel fan starts the argument and our boys' parents are the ones that get thrown out - wouldn't happen at Qwest - good midwestern values!
Clearly you have not been to very many games at the Qwest...
Actually, I have been to almost every game for the last 2 years, but apparently where I am sitting there never seems to be any issues.........there is alot of yelling at officials, but that's about it! |
| admin |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:29:56 AM
{MavBridget posting under Admin's name again):
I agree that 40 people isn't going to make a dent in the SE Michigan economy -- but I bet any of the hotels in Ann Arbor would love the business ... especially outside of football season.
Like I said -- I personally didn't have any problems with the people at Yost, and I thought it was a good atmosphere. My problem was with the event staff and how they handled situations.
From what I understand from Mr. Scero, they did *not* identify the Michigan fan who started the incident, so he was *not* dealt with properly. Instead, they asked Mr. Scero not to return to the parents section (so he came and sat by us). Again: The proper response of the (apparently elderly usher, from MichiganMan's account) would have been to ask the student to return to his seat. Instead, he ignored the situation, which then escalated.
We've dealt with jacka$$ fans on the road before, but a competent event staff helps prevent the initial incident from getting worse. THAT is the reason I would never bring in a bus trip ... although I might make the trip myself again in the future. |
| AJMav |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 07:15:23 AM
Streaker, you have already earned your lifetime exemption as a non-target of this discussion. That has not been forgotten.
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| ellisfan |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 02:28:12 AM
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Originally posted by dupont_fan
That's crazy to me that a weasel fan starts the argument and our boys' parents are the ones that get thrown out - wouldn't happen at Qwest - good midwestern values!
Clearly you have not been to very many games at the Qwest... |
| Its Maverick Hockey Time |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 01:21:17 AM
Only at Michigan could a fan come over and taunt the parents right in front of their face and be able to go right back to his seat while the parents get tossed from the game.
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Michigan seemed to not have the same jump and I think were frustrated with the officiating.
Could it possibly be that Matt Shegos has enough respect and experience that he doesn't have to kiss Red's A** to get the prime assignments.
Just once I want UNO to overachieve in a year and surprise everyone. UM was picked to finish fourth and they found a way to finish first. The wait till next year attitude is getting old, at some point it has to be the year.
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| MichiganMan |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:28:18 AM
We would love to have you. I'm glad you appreciate the student section. As a grad student who went to an undergrad school with almost no team spirit I love it. I will say that the taunts against the parents are harsh but the best is when they give it right back. Honestly tonight I loved when you guys (parent section) scored and you started chanting Sieve at Billy (goalie, obv) that's the stuff that makes the games great. Please come back and have a good time. |
| Section 14 |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:23:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MichiganMan
Oh and on a completely unrelated (hockey) note please consider your economic arguments before you make it. Ann Arbor is actually a very successful Economy, the only one in the state. My guess is you stayed within 20 miles of the Yost Ice Arena so unless you are hoofing it from Detroit then your stimulus idea of your coming to the stadium is not actually true.
I am actually originally from the Detroit area and agree that Ann Arbor is doing quite well. We actually stayed in Livonia and 9 of us went to the Joe today, spent money, ate, etc.
However, a bus with 40 people isn't going to solve the problems in SE Michigan, it wouldn't even make a dent.
Like I said, I will be back for the series next year. I would love to see Michigan make the Frozen Four. It is good for the CCHA. |
| Streaker |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:23:44 AM
I attended both games... game one, Michigan just came out flying and had every bounce you can get. Just one of those games. Didn't sense any acts of intimidation etc. towards Mav fans that you wouldn't get anywhere else.
Game two, UNO came to play, desperate and tenacious. Michigan seemed to not have the same jump and I think were frustrated with the officiating. I think Mav fans can feel good about the effort, although the team came up short.
The scrum began with a legit call on Michigan for goalie interference, but after a few unwarranted shots after the whistle, both teams had dq's for fighting.
I think the moron that caused the issue in the stands was identified and handled. I saw no other issues in the arena. As a matter of fact, I saw more respect than the opposite. Aside from the student section chiding, most cases parents are treated very well.
Rick and AJ know me as we have met before and I would think that I represent well. Every fanbase has their 10% and certainly won't deny it. I won't apologize for U-M's success, and I personally don't have any issues with fans cheering their team. Perspective is probably the best word Rick used. Your fanbase talks about the distain for all things Michigan and that is fine. Goes with the territory. I prefer to enjoy my team than obsess with the evils of another. I take exception with AJ in that, there are many of us that still accept defeat graciously. I don't know a fanbase that doesn't have knuckleheads in that situation. I think your real issue is that you want a rivalry... and your program can't deliver.
Safe travels to those who made it over. I'll be in sec 9 next season if you care to come back, which I believe UNO is in line to do for 2008-09. If I happen to meet any of you I will extend the courtesy you deserve as a guest. |
| Section 14 |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 12:18:50 AM
I didn't have any problems and I was wearing the red UNO jersey both nights, so I would have been an easy target. The Scero incident was unfortunate. It is also unfortunate that Yost and Michigan fans are being judged because of a few idiots. We have idiot fans in Omaha too. Anyone remember the Notre Dame incident at the Civic about five years ago?
Their fans aren't the nicest in college hockey, but they aren't as bad as they are made out to be.
I loved their student section. They make UNO's student section and other fan sections look like amateurs. Their chants are in unison, their band is awesome and the band and the students play off of each other. I was impressed.
I will be back for the Michigan series next year. |
