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admin Posted - 06/11/2011 : 09:11:21 AM
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110611/NEWS01/706119852
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admin Posted - 07/12/2013 : 2:40:39 PM
We have a considerable number of UNMC employees/students in our neighborhood. As it regards the students, there are instances where they move in for a few years while they finish school, and move out when they are done.

I have to believe being close to a transit line would prove popular for those folks.

The nice thing about the proposed line is that it doesn't really take down any major arteries to construct, and is ensconced in areas that would actually use it for day-to-day use (as opposed to just special event use).
nousefouraname Posted - 07/12/2013 : 11:38:25 AM
I agree with Admin on this. I wonder how many people clamoring for an East/West route would really ride this to work on a day to day basis? I think alot of people would say they would, but when it comes down to it, I don't see the more affluent giving up the convenience of their cars. I would see much more of the ridership for something like this coming from the areas this would serve most: North Omaha, South Omaha, North Bellevue. Working class, lower income areas.

Yes, it doesn't run downtown or to the airport in this plan, but looking at the route, I would imagine there are some workable solutions to extend it to the airport from the North. In terms of downtown, I think you could do one of two things. Either have express bus lines running from 50th and Dodge to 10th and Dodge, or revisit the trolley line in conjunction with this. If you combined the trolley line they keep talking about (which I've always opposed because I don't think it serves enough of the city), it might make sense.

I can see the arguments against this, to an extent, that say it'll be too costly, or too difficult to implement. But, I don't get people saying this line wouldn't go anywhere. It would go right past VA, UNMC, and Offut. It would get people relatively close to UNO, Dundee, and Midtown. Lots of employers, businesses, and hospitals on that line.

If they are smart about it, with a few other bus or trolley lines, you could literally connect every major area of the city east of 60th from North O to Bellevue.
admin Posted - 07/12/2013 : 11:00:21 AM
While it might not be a conventional route, it has the potential to revitalize a lot of areas that need it -- especially the low-end industrial in South Omaha around the interstate.

I live pretty close to the section that would cross Vinton between 42nd and 32nd, and that area (and the area immediately south of I-80) could benefit greatly. In order to have urban renewal in dilapidated parts of the city, sometimes you have to have funky developments spurred with non-profit and government intervention.

In my mind, a "west Omaha to east Omaha" transit line will never happen. In certain instances, people in newer parts don't see the value in renewing decaying parts of the city that need revitalization. It is also difficult to get a population used to driving from the suburbs to consider light rail transit.

I live near 48th and Grover, so the notion that fun shops, businesses and residential developments could pop up is incredibly appealing. It would have a halo effect that would enhance development and residential property values for several miles on both sides.

The plan is ambitious, but having "The Belt Line" would make surrounding neighborhoods much more appealing to wary house hunters who don't necessarily want the trouble of caring for a home that will have age-related issues. It would also create a more "urban vibe," and attract a young, hipster-like crowd that has a way of bringing a unique cultural presence to an area.

The urban core is a different beast to handle than vast/open developments in West Omaha. Certain areas are lower-middle class, and just don't have the ability to revitalize without intervention.

Anyhow, I think the proposed plan sounds terrific. Emerging Terrain really has done some wonderful things in my neck of the woods.
Greg S Posted - 07/10/2013 : 10:04:09 AM
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Originally posted by SecretAgentMav

A north-south line does NOTHING to help the city. This is a brilliant idea if you also have east-west routes: buses do not count.


...Last night I had the strangest dream...




I agree. I'd also be afraid that this would be such a failure with ridership, it would permanently harm any shot of an east/west route, or at least something that connect the airport, downtown, midtown and the med center.

Greg
nousefouraname Posted - 07/09/2013 : 8:19:13 PM
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Originally posted by Pants

East/west would have to go from basically the old market to village point.

This would never happen, however, it could serve as a basic map of where the east/west line could one day go.

http://freshjuiceprojects.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/omta-map-pub.jpg

AGAIN, it would be far too expensive and most of those lines would rarely, if ever, be used, but it serves as kind of a fun "What if" (I mean, even cities like St. Louis only have two lines)




agree would have to go the whole way and not just 10th to 42nd along dodge.
Pants Posted - 07/09/2013 : 7:22:29 PM
East/west would have to go from basically the old market to village point.

This would never happen, however, it could serve as a basic map of where the east/west line could one day go.

http://freshjuiceprojects.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/omta-map-pub.jpg

AGAIN, it would be far too expensive and most of those lines would rarely, if ever, be used, but it serves as kind of a fun "What if" (I mean, even cities like St. Louis only have two lines)
nousefouraname Posted - 07/09/2013 : 7:17:14 PM
still a better idea than the east/west trolley car line that would only go from 10th st. to 42nd along dodge and serve as nothing more than an old market to midtown drunk bus on Friday and Saturday nights. Now, that idea (which has been floated by multiple mayors) is a white elephant if I've ever seen one.

The north south line would serve the people most likely to use public transportation in North and South Omaha. It would go to the midtown area. It would reach as far south as offut if this ever came to full fruition (doubtful, but interesting).

It's not a perfect idea and I agree a true all encompassing east west line would be best, but I don't see a workable way you could really create an east west line that services enough of the city to make it worth it.
Pants Posted - 07/09/2013 : 5:33:03 PM
I agree that this would be neat with an east west line as well.
SecretAgentMav Posted - 07/09/2013 : 5:29:27 PM
A north-south line does NOTHING to help the city. This is a brilliant idea if you also have east-west routes: buses do not count.


...Last night I had the strangest dream...
nousefouraname Posted - 07/09/2013 : 4:18:07 PM
I like this new plan alot. Of course, the likely high cost makes me think this doesn't stand a chance of ever happening, but I like this more than the trolley line that's been thrown around multiple times over the last 20 years.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130709/MONEY/707099936/1685#repurposed-omaha-rail-line-would-include-light-rail-system-trail


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